Aucbvax.2508 fa.unix-wizards utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!RMS@MIT-AI Sat Aug 1 00:43:06 1981 Re: Re: vt100 bug From: Richard M Stallman When you type a ^S, it does not do anything to the TERMINAL. It may make the SYSTEM stop doing output until you type a ^Q. Whether it does this is not up to the terminal. It is up to a flag (or at least, there ought to be one) in the system. In Twenex, there is such a flag, and I believe that EMACS turns off all system processing of ^S when it is entered and turns it back on (if it was on) when it exits, unless you set a flag in EMACS telling EMACS not to turn it off. So it sounds like that flag is set wrong in your EMACS, or there is some other bug in EMACS or in Twenex, if the problem is occurring in EMACS on a Twenex. As for use of ^S and ^Q in general, that flow control protocol is a bad one, and there is no excuse for making a network use it. I believe that it is important for me NOT to adapt to the rest of the world's lossage (= lose because other people decided to lose). WE know how to make terminals and networks that let us use ^S and ^Q. Lots of other people know how (Arpanet, Ethernet, Chaosnet, probably even DECnet). If someone still insists on losing, that's his own fault. Let HIM figure out which two commands he wants to do without. Maybe his network was a "bargain", but it has hidden costs, and I'm not willing to help pay them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- gopher://quux.org/ conversion by John Goerzen of http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/ This Usenet Oldnews Archive article may be copied and distributed freely, provided: 1. There is no money collected for the text(s) of the articles. 2. The following notice remains appended to each copy: The Usenet Oldnews Archive: Compilation Copyright (C) 1981, 1996 Bruce Jones, Henry Spencer, David Wiseman.