Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from 63-245-179-205.kitusa.com ([63.245.179.205] helo=erwin.lan.complete.org) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtps (with TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (TLS peer CN erwin.complete.org, certificate verified) (Exim 4.63) id 1Iss6j-0008Qv-8y; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:07 -0600 Received: from katherina.lan.complete.org ([10.200.0.4]) by erwin.lan.complete.org with esmtps (with TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (No TLS peer certificate) (Exim 4.67) id 1Iss6f-00056y-1C; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:01 -0600 Received: from jgoerzen by katherina.lan.complete.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iss6e-0001V8-Hr; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:00 -0600 From: John Goerzen To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: BRING THE GOPHER BACK Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:00 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Stegozor References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711152143.00540.jgoerzen@complete.org> X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.2): AWL=0.166 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:07 -0600 X-archive-position: 1734 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: jgoerzen@complete.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher On Thursday 15 November 2007 7:26:38 pm Stegozor wrote: > As for the marketing, I have a quite simple proposal: let's move from > this list to the public news:comp.infosystems.gopher newsgroup before > it is possibly removed by the Big-8 managament board because of Few people know about Usenet. Many more know about email. They are not in competition, and people do not move by fiat. The Usenet group will become more active if people post in it. Lots of Usenet newsgroups look dead. comp.lang.functional, for instance. Yet just one mailing list for just one functional language (Haskell) has dozens of posts per day sometimes. I think that lack of activity on Usenet is a commentary about Usenet more than anything else. I used to participate in Usenet frequently, but I can't remember the last time I posted there, though I do use NNTP via gmane.org to track some mailing lists. I'm glad to see you are enthusiastic about gopher! I would suggest the "lead by doing" philosophy sometimes; yep, there are things to do, and perhaps people know about them and aren't doing things because of lack of time. You're welcome to pitch in, too. -- John