Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:12:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.19] helo=sdf.lonestar.org ident=root) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) id 1IrXDc-0003nI-Sx for gopher@complete.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:12:44 -0600 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:pawelsz@vinland.freeshell.org [192.94.73.6]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACBCZ0X007361 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:12:35 GMT Received: (from pawelsz@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.1/8.12.8/Submit) id lACBCZNN027146; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:12:35 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:12:35 +0000 (UTC) From: Pawel X-X-Sender: pawelsz@vinland.freeshell.org To: Gopher mailing list Subject: [gopher] BRING THE GOPHER BACK Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No (score 1.7): AWL=-1.270, DISGUISE_PORN_MUNDANE=1.798, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:12:44 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 1723 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: pawelsz@sdf.lonestar.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher Hello Gopher hackers ! Why not try to bring the Gopher back ? I have few ideas how to incarse popularity of GOPHER. 1. Newsletter There should be some monthly Gopher newsletter avalible. Newsletter is a great way to build community coz it can bring new users into Gopherspace and its great way to leave a sign of GOPHER for next generations ;) Sample newsletter could contain: 1. Quick overview of current GOPHER scene events 2. Inforamtion about new GOPHER software 3. Information abour new GOPHER services 4. Intresting GOPHER pages etc. 2. More statistics. There should be much more statistics avalible about Gopherspace. With that info we could SEE how GOPHER is dying or rising. Usefull info are in example: 1. How much unique IP'shave used Veronica 2. How much gopher:// servers are avalible (aka netcraft.com) etc. 3. More software We should make more software. Not only GOPHER servers (witch require high programming skills) but also typical usefull every-day scripts for Gopherspace. In example: 1. Slashdot rss news to gopher 2. All world weather service scripts 3. html to Gopher .list generator etc. 4. More *unique* contents. In example: 1. Legal mp3 music (or *illegal* if server will be in Sweden) 2. P0rn... (yes its non ethical but the true is that "The internet is for p0rn" 3. Unique legal software (0day exploits in example). Linking such software only with gopher:// will force peoples to use GOPHER :) 4. Non always ethical (but legal !) things removed from internet via censorship. (political manifests of Osama Bin Ladin in example) 5. Torrents are small and legal to host in most normal countries. 5. HACKING Various hardcore hacking experiments like: 0. MUST HAVE: Read only English wikipedia 1. JavaME GOPHER server for mobile phones 2. Gopher based p2p network ;) 6. Better communication There should be some offical IRC channel 7. Marketing Email singatures, forum signatures, usenet signatures, warez .nfo signatures refering to gopher://. We could even make some "dirty" marketing like *mistakenly* irc channel message (not spamming !): > pawelsz: /mgs Mike I have found that 0day linux exploit thru veronica search engine: gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/ > pawelsz: ohh sorry everyone that should be /msg (insted of /mgs) for Mike ! move along noting to see here. That info should intrested some peoples. Other dirty way is http referrer spoofing to get better indexing by google. In theory is totally legal. But it can be un ethical ;) I know that some of ideas are NOT ethical - but they are just ideas so plz dont be mad :D Of course its easy to write what others should do - but dont be fooled, right now im writing "Slashdot rss to gopher script" and i could (with some help of native english speaker) make the monthly GOPHER newsletter. have a nice day :) gopher://sdf.lonestar.org/11/users/pawelsz/ "I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them." Isaac Asimov