Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from c-71-194-68-64.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([71.194.68.64] helo=bluebrick ident=mail) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) id 1IFL0n-0002w9-Ts for gopher@complete.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:36 -0500 Received: from jburnett by bluebrick with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IFL0l-0004Ag-00 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:31 -0500 From: John Burnett To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Problem with SiMpLeMaChInEs Message-ID: <20070730022931.GA15816@comcast.net> References: <200707241651.l6OGpjsS007715@sdf.lonestar.org> <882972.21894.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070726030701.5b823ee0@work1.hal3000.cx> <20070730020923.GA12687@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070730020923.GA12687@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) X-Spam-Status: Yes (score 5.1): DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL=1.713, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=1.988 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:29:36 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 1676 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: john_burnett@cline.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 09:09:23PM -0500, John Burnett wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:07:01AM -0500, Chris wrote: > > Are we back on this non port 70 thing again? > > My 2 cents > > All Gopher clients need to be able to use ports other than port 70 > > all old ones did or they werent able to use the search engines, not to mention the rest of the servers not on 70, but we went over this already. > > The protocol allows and promotes non 70, if the client cant it is "bad" > > or limited at the least, use a better one so that you might be able to use gopherspace fully. > > In other countries they don't have linux, freebsd and the other free O.S's? > > I say we move em all off port 70 and keep them all guessin ;) > > Chris > > > > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:10:49 -0700 (PDT) > > JumpJet Mailbox wrote: > > > > > Testing indicates that software expecting to see gopher on Port 70 will NOT translate to another port. > > > > > > BROWSERS: > > > > > > Bobcat for DOS will fail > > > Lynx for DOS will fail > > > Internet Explorer will NOT see your server, and will either give an error message (if attaching to a sub-directory) or crash the browser if connecting to the root directory. > > > Older versions of Lynx for Windows will fail [but upgrading to the newest version will work]. > > > Older versions of Firefox will fail [but upgrading to the newest version will work]. > > > The MSNTV (WebTV) browser will fail. > > > > > > GOPHER CLIENTS: > > > > > > Documentation indicates the Acorn Risk OS client will fail. > > > Documentation indicates the Atari MiNT client will fail. > > > Documentation indicates the IBM CMS mainframe clients will fail. > > > Documentation indicates the VAX mainframe client will fail. > > > The MOO object will fail > > > The AmigaOS client will fail. > > > The OS/2 client will fail. > > > All the Windows 3.1 clients tested so far have failed. > > > All the DOS clients tested so far have failed. snip..................... The site works fine with forg. The only browser that I have had problems with is w3m. Speaking of forg, anybody know how to adjust the text size? Thanks, John Burnett Sun Jul 29 21:09:08 CDT 2007