Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:48:25 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from pluto2.runbox.com (pluto2.runbox.com [193.71.199.74]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C95D3B80B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=runbox.com) by pluto2.runbox.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16QrMR-0007IR-00 for gopher@complete.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:48:19 +0100 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Timm Murray" To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Antwort: Re: finally i find other gopherfans... (gn maintainer) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:48:19 GMT X-Mailer: RMM Message-Id: X-archive-position: 337 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: hardburn@runbox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher >=20 > Timm Murray writes: >=20 > > I'm a developer for the Everything Over Freenet (EOF) project. We basi= cally=20 > > take other protocols (like SMTP, POP3, whatever) and make them work ove= r=20 > > freenet (see freenetproject.org if you're unfamiler with Freenet).=20= =20 > > Currently, I'm working on some of the core functionality of EOF, but af= ter=20 > > that, a Gopher EOF servlet is quite doable. >=20 > That sounds like one of the neatest projects I've heard of in quite > awhile! I tried freenet awhile back and it was so slow and klunky I > didn't really use it for very long. I hope it is doing better these > days and that the EOF project works well. I think that Gopher would > be an excellent way to browse keyindexes, just from a client perspective. Freenet is still slow and klunky (the 0.3 network totally sucked). The 0.4= network (which is unstable in the same way that odd-minor-numbered Linux k= ernels are unstable) is focused on getting reliability of the routing up. = These changes will eventually be solidified into the 0.5 version (which is = stable--well, more like slightly-less unstable :) Everyone is crossing thei= r fingers that the new version of the network won't suck. Fortunatly, simu= lations show we have a good reason for optimism, but it still remains to be= seen. Anyway, though Freenet already has an HTTP gateway into the network, I thin= k a Gopher gateway would be much more natural, as Freenet subspaces (an are= a of Freenet where only someone who knows the private encryption key can in= sert into) are already in a heiarchy. Additionaly, Freenet already stores = MIME types, so there isn't as much fooling around trying to figure out whic= h Gopher type to send back to the client (which, in my small experiance in = writing a Perl gopher server, takes up the largest portion of the code).