Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:38:43 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4A83B822 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.166.200.213] (helo=there) by pluto.runbox.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Oj9P-0003rV-00 for gopher@complete.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:38:04 +0100 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Timm Murray To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Heads up Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:39:18 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <873d1go1pb.fsf@complete.org> <87vgearzyy.fsf@complete.org> In-Reply-To: <87vgearzyy.fsf@complete.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-archive-position: 289 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: hardburn@runbox.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 January 2002 09:24, you wrote: > MJ Ray writes: > > There is the "not limited to patent issues" part in there. If UMN can in > > any way legally claim to own the *idea* of gopher as was feared in the > > past, then surely the problem still survives? If their licence fee idea > > was based > > Well, I think that by this point we are talking about a problem that > could be argued with any GPL'd software, not just gopher. > > In the US, we have three different ways to "own the idea": > > 1. Copyright > 2. Patent > 3. Trademark Don't forget Trade Secrets. Whereas patents give you a limited monopoly at the expense of revealing everything about your device, trade secrets give you a monopoly at the expense that you must keep everything secret. The moment your device is revealed to the public, you lose your trade secret. [Clearly, this is not the case here, since Gopher is a well-published protocol]. - -- All the simple programs have been written. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjw90ckACgkQqpueKcacfLSoIgCfTk40zVtnR6FWo2RGbV+gGxbQ fnEAoM60baZAhJfFB4PJhVmxDrWJd+6i =WHfu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----