Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 04 Jan 2001 00:40:06 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (gtei1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.40.145]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB5F3B8FD for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:40:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mothra (adsl-141-152-12-101.bellatlantic.net [141.152.12.101]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA28865 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from x by mothra with local (Exim 3.20 #1 (Debian)) id 14E40y-0000PL-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:36:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:36:44 -0500 From: David Allen To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: New client announcement (#2) Message-ID: <20010104013644.A1540@mothra> References: <20010104000948.A17912@mothra> <20010103222742.A6482@success-info.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010103222742.A6482@success-info.com>; from emanuel@heatdeath.org on Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:27:42PM -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 21 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: s2mdalle@titan.vcu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org X-list: gopher On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:27:42PM -0800, emanuel at heatdeath organisation wrote: > > Aw jeez, first I have to install Slackware, get X running, compile and install > Gnome, compile and install OpenSSL/OpenSSH (so I can get at my e-mail to find > the link without having somebody snatch my password) to try Stefan Rieken's new > client, and *now* you want me to install python to try yours as well? Of > course I'll have to install the JDK, Tomcat and Netscape too, so I can run my > webgopher on this installation. I'm gonna be up all night :-) Maybe I > shouldn've installed Debian after all... No! That's WHY you should install debian. Because instead of downloading compiling and installing megs upon megs of source, you can just apt-get to your heart's delight. That is, if you have a decent connection. There's nothing quite like being on a 56k modem, and having the system tell you that it's going for 60 packages at 85MB. :) Tomcat? What does that do specifically? I've seen it's name referenced in the same context as java servlets. I've written a few of those, but I've always used Jserv. Seems to work for me. I thought it was a bit strange that I wasn't the only one requiring people to get weird packages in order to run their program. For Stefans, you'll need helix GNOME, and GNet, which is a package that doesn't come with helix gnome by default. (Or that's how I got it running anyway). Just apt-get install libgnet I think...I'd say that GNet and Pmw are pretty odd packages to require, but you know how some developers hate to reinvent the wheel. :) > Actually it's a good excuse to finally get Linux going on this box. And a > python gopher client can't be anything but good. Can't wait to try > it. Cool. I figured too many people were just going to ignore it due to installation requirements, but you're installing a whole OS to try it. Oh, by the way, consider the software payment for the bandwidth of yours that I ate testing it. :) More software for gopher can ONLY be positive. I would like to collaborate with other software writers though, since 1 or 2 good clients is better than 20 pre-beta clients. :) -- David Allen http://opop.nols.com/ ---------------------------------------- If a lawyer and an IRS agent were both drowning, and you could only save one of them, would you go to lunch or read the paper?