Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 07 Jan 2001 21:28:55 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from gtei1.bellatlantic.net (gtei1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.40.145]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7032B3B807 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:28:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mothra (adsl-141-152-12-101.bellatlantic.net [141.152.12.101]) by gtei1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28927 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from x by mothra with local (Exim 3.20 #1 (Debian)) id 14FSvG-0005Hh-00 for ; Sun, 07 Jan 2001 22:24:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:24:38 -0500 From: David Allen To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: An idea Message-ID: <20010107222438.B20243@mothra> References: <87itnqsrif.fsf@complete.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <87itnqsrif.fsf@complete.org>; from jgoerzen@complete.org on Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:32:24PM -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 44 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: s2mdalle@titan.vcu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org X-list: gopher On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 09:32:24PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > Jeff Licquia, one of my coworkers, told me that gopher is suspiciously > like WAP, which is used on some cellphones that I don't own :-) He > suggested a wap-to-gopher gateway along the lines of the heatdeath.org > web to gopher gateway. Sound doable? Useful? Feasible? I think it's doable, useful, and feasible. I've been reading a bit recently on java servlets and WML. From what I gather, WML is a certain DTD for XML which defines documents as a series of cards. So one page might be split up into any number of cards, with navigation between cards. I'm not sure exactly what the details are on the display of certain devices used with WAP, but formatting text into a WML document should be pretty easy if you can figure out how many lines/card and how many chars/line are needed. As far as I know though, WAP isn't used much right now because wireless time is still obscenely expensive. I'd find out, but I refuse to let my boss give me a cell phone, since I like what little sleep I get. :) -- David Allen http://opop.nols.com/ ---------------------------------------- People are like onions -- you cut them up, and they make you cry.